MESSIAH: The Father or The Son? FYTube



Is our Messiah the Father come in the flesh or is he the Son of the Most High? Is he Elohim (God)? Today, we will share the Truth.
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  1. I don't see a pre-existing Yeshua being described in Deuteronomy 18:18. Yahweh said he would raise up a prophet from among his brethren. That is a big difference then, I'm turning my Word into flesh.Yahweh said that he would put his words in his mouth, and he will speak all that I command him. The word pre-existed, and it entered Yeshua at his birth, but Yeshua didn't pre-exist. Yeshua only Pre-existed in the plan of Yahweh.Yahweh is one, so the word is YAHWEH, not Yeshua before he became flesh. Clearly Yeshua said the words he spoke were not his, Deuteronomy makes this clear to me. Of course I highly disagree with your understanding. I don't claim to be right, but I don't agree. I do believe all things were made new through Yeshua, but that wouldn't include the Genius creation according to Deuteronomy 18:18 in my understanding,

  2. WHO can promise ETERNITY, if He is not ETERNAL
    John 10:28 ๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–

    27 My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me.
    28 I GIVE THEM ETERNAL LIFE, and they will never perish. No one can snatch them out of My hand.
    1 John 5:20 ๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–๐Ÿ“–

    We know also that the Son of El.. has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him who is true.
    And we are in Him who is true by being in His Son Y-H-M. He IS THE TRUE EL.. AND ETERNAL LIFE.

  3. I have had this same view and understanding of the Godhead
    It may sound strange to speak of subordination within the Trinity. After all, Jesus and the Father are โ€œoneโ€ (John 10:30). Subordination makes us think of a lower rank or a subservient position. To understand how there can be subordination in the Trinity, it is important to understand that there are different types of subordination. The biblical or orthodox view of the triune nature of God acknowledges an economic subordination in the Trinity but denies the heretical view of an ontological subordination.

    What does this mean? Simply that all three Persons of the Godhead are equal in nature. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit all have the same divine nature and divine attributes. Contrary to the teaching of many cults, there is no ontological subordination (no difference in the nature of the three Persons of the Godhead). This means that the Trinity is not comprised of greater and lesser gods; rather, there is one God existing eternally in three co-equal Persons.

    What the Bible does teach is an economic (or relational) subordination within the Trinity. The three Persons of the triune Godhead voluntarily submit to each other respecting the roles They perform in creation and salvation. So, the Father sent the Son into the world (1 John 4:10). These roles are never reversed in Scripture: the Son never sends the Father. Likewise, the Holy Spirit is sent by Jesus and โ€œproceeds from the Fatherโ€ to testify of Christ (John 14:26; 15:26). And Jesus perfectly submitted His will to the Fatherโ€™s (Luke 22:42; Hebrews 10:7).

    Economic or relational subordination is simply a term to describe the relationship that exists among God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Essentially, economic subordination within the Trinity refers to what God does while ontological subordination refers to who God is.

    Biblically, all three Persons of the Trinity have the same essence, nature, and glory, but each One has different roles or activities when it comes to how God relates to the world. For example, our salvation is based on the Fatherโ€™s power and love (John 3:16; 10:29), the Sonโ€™s death and resurrection (1 John 2:2; Ephesians 2:6), and the Spiritโ€™s regeneration and seal (Ephesians 4:30; Titus 3:5). The different tasks that we see the Father, Son, and Spirit perform are the result of the eternal relationship that exists among the Persons of the Trinity.

    The issue of subordination within the Trinity is nuanced, and the distinction between ontological and economic subordination is fine indeed. Theologians within Christian orthodoxy continue to debate the limits of subordination and its relation to the Incarnation of Christ. Such discussions are profitable as we study the Scriptures and think through the truth about the nature of God.

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