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  1. 12-6 elbows means 12-6 based upon the delivering fighters position in relation to front to front position. The clock position is in relation to the position of the fighters front facing position to his opponent if the fighter is on his back the clock shifts to being on the ceiling like Herb Dean said, simply because the fighters front facing position went from level horizontal to level vertical. The clock stays in position relative to the fighters front facing direction … In a standing position the clocks center is 1/2 the distance of the fighters height moving straight out towards the opponent.. Hence the 12 being above the fighter and 6 being below the fighter. This is a set position, it follows the front facing direction, hence the fighters front from on his back is towards the ceiling. Arguing that gravity is the contributing factor isnt relevant as any trainer will tell you force is generated by technique , power and torque all from muscle memory and body movement not from gravity

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