Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson on enforced monogamy.
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So why does Joe keep asking how the man who gets all the women is a problem and how the incels are related? He completely ignored the fact that when monogamy in the social norm, SOME WOMEN WILL REJECT the attractive man and choose instead the one who will be the better monogamous partner. This gives other men a chance to be the better guy. He completely assumed all women want a player for a partner. Not so.
I am 58 and have never had sex Maybe a vo-cel, when females, in any form, have no allure. Not worth the effort.
Relationship with water in many forms. Plenty of hot baths followed by cold plunges. Plenty of tea.
Joe only thinks crabbing, wrastling and mashroom :). Joe should talk this topic to J.Dias.
Joe seems to be advocating for polygamist rules but the outcome will be the potential for insestuous relationship between the offspring of the few high status men because of lack of genetic diversity.
The problem with Peterson is that in a way he comes from the same type of thinking as the communists (bear with me). Same as the communists he sees certain kind of danger for society (only in his case it is not the bourgeoise, but the totalitarian tyranny, chaos, violence etc.) and same as communists he is also adamant in his conviction that he found a cure for this danger. I think that his conviction is based on his intellectual endeavour trying to support the workings of that cure with "historical evidence". And then he spreads the message and tries to convince everyone that this is the cure, same as the commies. The problem is that all his evidence is not empirical, we are dealing with social sciences here, it is all just hypothesis, you cannot experimentally measure these things on societies in real time. So his conviction that he found the cure is a bit too strong for my taste in this video. Almost as if there was some messianistic element in him that prevents him from seeing his own limitations in this regard. Another disturbing similarity with the commies besides the strong belief that he found the cure, is the notion that the goal is so important that the end justifies the means (remember that in Jordan's mind the goal is nothing less than the prevention of destruction of humanity). An example of this in Jordan's case would be his advocating of the role of religion – he promotes it, since he sees it as a cure (an antidote to the dangers he is fighting against) and so, even though he knows very well that it is foolish to take religion literally, he is completely fine with most people actually taking it literally. Even if we ignore the dubiousness of the very claim that religion is instrumental in this respect, what really strikes me as dangerous, is that he is willing to sacrifice the truth (that the religion is obviously man-made and God of the Bible does not exist) on the altar of utility – he would rather keep the masses stupid, believing things that are not true, than to (in his mind) shatter the very fabric of society. We could see this in the debate with Sam Harris on religion. Same with the commies – they would without any hesitation engage in any kind of mind control games and would spread any kind of lies, for the revolution to occur. I personally take it as an insult, that someone (be it Jordan) knows so much better what is good for me / the society, that he should be allowed to manipulate me in this way. We all have the right to know the truth.