Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1257 w/Steve Sweeney:
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Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1257 w/Steve Sweeney:
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Joe's got a man crush on hagler…everything he talks about him
Totally agree with Joe!
PLEASE JOE GET HAGLER ON THE SHOW PLEASE!!!
Marvelous Marvin Hagler's legend continues to grow, as time goes on. Some fighters reputation decreases as time goes on, other increase. Hagler's has increased. Also, Hagler would have never thrown a fight, especially to Leonard. As time goes on, the consensus wisdom is this: Leonard waited Hagler out, waited until Hagler's skills eroded. then Leonard negotiated every single advantage for the fight: big gloves, big ring, 12 rounds instead of 15, and Leonard insisted on these advantages and gave Hagler extra money to make sure he got it. Also, Hagler, by then, had achieved greatest and had gotten respect. After beating Duran, Hearns and Mugabi, he was the undisputed pound for pound best, and was doing the Carson show and Right Guard commercials. In other words, Hagler didnt need Leonard anymore. If anything, Leonard needed Hagler because Leonard's legend had faded. Hagler was the man, and the problem that, is that he wasn't as hungry anymore. Hagler should have either not taken that fight, or fought that fight the way he fought Hearns–all out, not giving Leonard a chance to breathe. Anyhow, history is history, but it says alot about Hagler that even on that day, 50% of the fans and press thought he won, he was never hurt, stunned or wobbled, he wasnt cut or beat up in any way, and he looked like he could have fought for 15 more rounds. The one thing I thinked he lacked in that fight was hunger: his destruct and destroy wasn't there that night, and neither was his hands speed and reflexes. Leonard waited long enough for Hagler's skill and hunger to erode…just enough to ekk out a split decision victory. I cant think of anyone who believes Leonard would have beaten Hagler in their primes…not even Leonard. And, Leonard never cleanly beat Hagler. Lastly, whereas Hagler never embarrassed himself inside or outside the ring (no shame in losing to Leonard, one of the all-time greats), Leonard would go on to have embarrasing fights and losses to Terry Norris and the late Hector Mach Camacho. In fACT, lEONARD LAST LOST WAS A KNOCK OUT BY CAMACHO. Sad. Leonard also got hooked on coke and his post-Hagler career sucked. Hagler, on the other hand, has had his legend grow. Most I think dismiss the Leonard loss for the reasons I gave or dispute it outright.