Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1267 w/Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet
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Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1267 w/Gary Taubes & Stephan Guyenet
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Stephan is so smug for someone who's never actually had to enact what he's proposing.
I have. I did the research before it was all nicely compiled like it is now. The fact of the matter is that Stephan's logic only works if you are the type with a few pounds to lose or were fit most of your life and just recently started adding the pounds. If you have had a lifelong battle with serious obesity (metabolic disorder) his book offers little to no hope. The fact of the matter is I don't give a rat's ass whose right. I don't care. I don't have a political point, or a reputation, or anything else. I care about what continues to help me drop weight. That's all. Because it was/is life or death for me. I assure Stephan, that a diet just high in carbs, for that matter healthy carbs, will in fact continue to put weight on me. He won't believe me because that shit eating grin has a book to sell. He would say that I didn't log my stuff properly or wasn't getting enough exercise. But I have more years in this than he does and denial doesn't change fact. The lower my carbs, the more I lose, the easier it is to maintain the weight loss. And if he had all the answers why am I still being studied by the NWCR?
I don't think that the evidence presented by Guyenet proves much of anything. Yes, we all agree that an industrial diet is awful for us, but is it the mix of fat and carbs or is it the type of fats and carbs we are eating? Indigenous populations that eat carbs in high quantity usually eat tubers and fruits, not processed sugar and flour. Same goes for vegetable oils vs animal fats (and fat from animals in industrial systems and pastured animals). Also a study of 3 weeks? What if to trigger insulin mechanisms you need more than 3 weeks of eating carbs? A lot of people can eat junk stuff for many years before they get fat. I think there are still many questions that nobody has bothered to ask or answer, and Guyenet is does not even seem to be considering alternatives.
cant find the full 1267 podcast just a lot of cuts.
Total narcissist I can't even listen to him
idk why joe was so confused lol