Joe Rogan Experience #1221 – Jonathan Haidt FYTube



Jonathan Haidt is a social psychologist and Professor of Ethical Leadership at New York University’s Stern School of Business. He’s also the author of books such as “The Happiness Hypothesis” and “The Coddling of the American Mind”.

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  1. tl;dr: What is being said in this video should surprise no older teen or adult in gen z.

    1:44:25 As a college student and therefore older gen z individual (what some subcultures of my generation call Zoomers), for me it's not that I hate work, it's that all the work I've done my whole life is grating and unfulfilling. The moment I find myself doing labor that has serious, tangible, and intrinsically positive results, like gardening, cooking, constructing, etc. (basically anything a homesteader or Amish person occupies their day with) I find myself satisfied, and after a brief rest, ready to do more later. But spending hours working on math problems to attain some number that has no bearing on my immediate life, or hours stocking shelves to receive a piece of paper with numbers on it every two weeks, my monkey brain becomes disaffected. It feels pointless, meaningless, etc.

    On top of all this, I'm a naturally inquisitive person. I love learning, unlike the Bart scene. But schooling is not learning. It's like taking a mallet to stone with no chisel. I can't wait to be done with college because finally I can spend my mental energy on stuff I want to learn after two decades of my life chained to what I have to learn, at a pace so incredibly slow because schools are practically designed to waste time. The classroom moves at the pace of its slowest learners, and makes up for that by replacing learning with meaningless homework. And then you get to college and the pace increases, but the ratio of work doesn't change, so now you're cramming assignments into every free moment of your day or else you fall behind or find yourself with no windows for recreation. (at least in STEM, can't say for other degrees) Whenever I hear people talk about the mental health crisis and they're not people like Jonathan Haidt who get it, I wonder what life they got to lead that they don't feel some sort of overbearing pressure. Throw in the growing threat of nihilism in our society and it's no wonder people are latching onto ideology like some sort of religion. They're empty inside. I'm quite fortunate that I've found philosophy as a hobby, because writers like Albert Camus or Franz Kafka (Kafka if you listen to the message of the story, not just the events of the story) prevent me from feeling despair to the degree of mental illness.

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