Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1292 w/Lex Fridman:
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Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #1292 w/Lex Fridman:
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You want people to not grow up fucked up? Get the economic boot off their throat. #freedomdividen #yangang
Joe sounds like Bernie in this and I love it
Who is this idiot?
Joe, dude… can you get someone credible on your show that's not just moderately popular in a given moment in time shitting out ideas as fast as they can think them up when it comes to economics?
I'm willing to bet if you asked Thomas Sowell to talk with you he would open your eyes and millions of others to the dangers of people being so ignorant on the topic of economics. You can be a billionaire and hardly understand economics, that's the not qualifier that should make someone the "go to" source of information on the topic or all I'd have to do is find another rich person that disagrees and now we're at a stalemate.
Milton Friedman was not a billionaire, but he also never supported a UBI and definitely nothing like Andrew Yang's UBI. But Yang can chit out dead peoples names that can't defend themselves and the ignorant population that supports Yang just nods and accepts his word as fact when it's incredibly far from fact.
Thomas Sowell is a world wide famous economist that used to tour with Milton Friedman, I'd much rather hear his prospective on a UBI and how he would describe Milton's Negative income tax over Yang's massive welfare bribe. Sowell was an actual economist that was friends with MF and he's still alive, no need to take Yang's word for it. MF's NIT was not for everyone but a small part of the population and it shrank as you made money until it was gone. It was an idea to LOWER TAXES for people, notice Yang RAISES taxes? Yang raises taxes because it's nothing like MF's NIT, nothing….
A UBI can't work and has never worked anywhere in the world. Demand pull and Cost push inflation don't care if you print money but if you follow Yang then chances are you have no idea what these kinds of inflation are, how they work and why they exists… Rather if you support Yang you probably are limited to believing you only get inflation from printing… and even if that's all you believe Yang will be printing trillions but no one
calls him on his shit. Alaska does not have a UBI, the payout is once a year, around a 10th Yangs payout on average and lacks a VAT tax on all or most business… it avoids the inflation factors Yang's UBI has built in, so how can anyone claim Alaska is like Yang's UBI?
Please get someone that can actually make it through a sentence without tons of economic contradictions where they actually say "socialism" is not necessarily bad… Yeah, it's only failed in every country and killed over 100 million people… Venezuela is socialist and is actually similar to Yang's UBI, they took the money from oil, then the price for oil tanked and the Government started driving tanks over their starving citizens. This is basic stuff if you understand economics, please get someone like Sowell on to discuss economics properly, not this "I think" or "Maybe you know umm" and "There has got to be a better way." That's not economics, that's children waddling through an economic conversation.
I sound mean, but we're talking about economic disaster on levels like Venezuela, only worse because it will fuck the world economy.
I'm tired of hearing this point about how we "derive meaning from work". I love the job I have now, but I have always derived far more meaning from what I do outside work, whether it was back in my years as fast food and retail jobs or now that I'm sitting in an office cubicle. There's no meaning in the mindless grind, just the small satisfaction in knowing you earned this money. And getting your absolute basic needs met whether or not you work is a good thing – even if you fully buy into that nonsense about meaning then you're still not making an effective anti-UBI argument. If someone finds themselves hopelessly depressed getting their $1k a month and not working, they can choose to go get a crappy job again and – hey – cool thing is, now that money they earn is pure gravy. Now they have the safety net to fall back on and the stress of being stuck is no longer an issue. Honestly, with UBI in place, the Walmart and McD's employees out here have a much better chance at actually getting a sense of meaning and purpose and comradery out of their employment.
I find it odd that this guy says he's in favor of UBI (for, ostensibly, much the same reasons as what I mentioned above), and yet his whole objection to Yang is based off of a complete misunderstanding of his position. Yang has never once suggested AI is the enemy. The whole UBI thing is all about NOT stifling innovation and moving forward with tech – just changing the rules to ensure that when we reap the benefits of that tech, it doesn't all just go into one dude's pockets. We should advance, we should make this tech that improves everything, and we absolutely should put the value that gives us back into the pockets of the people.
I pretty much agree with most of what this guy's saying. People should be working to find their passion. Learning should be a lifelong effort and we should facilitate that for those who can't do it themselves. I don't know what I would be without my drive to be productive outside of work, and to keep learning and improving in what I do. I'm just not sure where his anti-Yang sentiments are coming from. If you sat them across from each other, it seems like the resulting discussion would be agreement 99% of the way.
Yea working in a warehouse and driving a forklift is soooo meaningful. People are going to miss their miserable slave jobs.
Wait,
No they aren't.