Are Pedophiles Born or Made? | Joe Rogan and Michael Malice FYTube

PEDOPHILIA:

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An ongoing attraction to prepubescents from ages 3-10 and in some cases up to 13 depending on the Tanner stage of the Tanner scale of human development being used. (Many 14 or 15-year-old's would not be pubescent/reached puberty, i.e., in Tanner stages 2 or 3 of development; many would instead be in Tanner Stage 4, and a few might appear to be in Tanner Stage 5.)

It may surprise one to know that most adults who engage in sexual contact with prepubescents or pubescents aren't even pedophiles/hebephiles or primarily attracted to them.[9][10][11]

Also, most pedophiles never actually engage in sexual contact with prepubescents; the rate of how many do varies but many journals put an estimate at 5-20%.[21]

Additionally, few NON-pedophiles and non-hebephiles engage in contact.[21]

Furthermore, most contact is with permission, not forceful in nature.

Finally, most contact (either with "permission" or forceful) with prepubescents/pubescents is from people with antisocial traits/opportunistic individuals on power trips (ex: sociopaths – people with low empathy who commit crimes). These opportunists are primarily attracted to adults but engage in sexual acts with youths because it is easier.

The in-built personality of the contactor has more impact on whether they are more likely to contact than their age. All of these contactors were likely to make contact as children and teens as well.[6]

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There are other chronophilias like pedophilia to denote attractions to other age ranges.

Chronophilia – a sexual attraction to people of a certain age range. The term was coined by John Money.[1][2][3]

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Chart of chronophilias (also called age-based paraphilias):

Chronophilia| preferred age range | prevalence

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Nepiophilia | infants 2-3 | 1% or less

Pedophilia | prepubescents 3-10 (in some cases up to 13) | 3-5%

Hebephilia | pubescents from ages 11-14 | 16-20%

Ephebophilia and Teleiophilia | post-pubescents 15-17 (sometimes up to 19)
and young adults in their 20's and 30's | 75-86%

Mesophilia | middle-aged adults in their 40's and 50's | 48%

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Prevalence rates are only for males and are based on a combination of studies and phallometric research.[1][4][5][6][7][8]

These refer to attractions to people of a certain age range, not the act of sex or romance with people in those ranges.

Technically, chronophilic labels do not relate to age itself but to preferences for human sexual maturity stages(body type, muscle development, etc.)[1]

There is no evidence that preferred ages among men change as they themselves age, but for older women this may be different.[18]

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Each of the chronophilias is based on a stage of the Tanner scale of human development which defines measures development based on sexual characteristics of human beings from childhood to adulthood. Physical features may not be the only measurement. Ex: some pedophilic males have reported "playfulness" as part of what they find attractive in prepubescents.[1]

The term minor-attraction has been used as an umbrella term to group the chronophilias in the lower age ranges. Any person person attracted to someone in the lower ranges is said to be a minor-attracted person (MAP).[19][23] The use of this term has been rapidly growing since 2017 and has drawn a lot of controversy among academics.[24]

These can also overlap; people can have more than one chronophilia:

pedohebephilia

hebeteleiophilia

pedohebemesophilia

etc.[1][12]

So just like some people are equally attracted to both males and females, some are equally attracted to post-pubescents and young adults, etc.

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Note: while a youth-based chronophile is more likely to seek romance and/or sex with someone in their preferred age range they aren't any more prone to 'seeking' for sex or romance in general than teleiophiles are. Having any of the lower range chronophilias does not imply one is a sex-crazed animal whose sole urge is to seek these things out in the same way that most higher range adult-based chronophiles aren't normally addicted to these things. Just like how most teleiophiles naturally meet, fall in love with someone then gravitate to sex later in the relationship, most hebephiles are the same way. Thus, other than having different attractions, their drives are really no different than those of teleiophiles.[1][12]

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More on prevalence:

Studies using phallometry have found that most men show at least some arousal to prepubescents, with a significant minority demonstrating a clear preference. We do know that when expanding the definition of pedophilia to encompass attraction towards ages as high as 12 or 13 (i.e. "pedohebephilia"), phallometry consistently suggests that around 20% of men are equally or more aroused by "children".[4] As James Kincaid says:

A recent study of ideal desirability using a computer program called FacePrints found that "the ideal 25-year-old woman … had a 14-year-old's abundant lips and an 11-year-old's delicate jaw." that small lower face providing also the prominent eyes and cheekbones of prepubescents. We are told to look like children if we can and for as long as we can, to pine for that look.

Further, the number of preferential hebephiles and ephebophiles is likely to be at least 10 times that the number of pedophiles.[1] According to Michael Seto and the DSM-5, the actual prevalence of Pedophilia is unknown, with an estimate of up to 3-5% (American Psychiatric Association, 2013).[4][8] Evidence concerning women is for all practical purposes, absent.

Cross-cultural, historic and species literature appears to suggest this, as put forth by Rind and Yuill. Further, present-day modeling studies display a hebephilic/ephebophilic Minor-Attracted optimum for male heterosexual attraction:

"For example, Johnston and Franklin (1993) had subjects "evolve" a beautiful female face over iterated generations on a computer program designed to simulate natural selection. In the end, the most attractive versions of females' faces had proportions typical of girls aged 11-14. Braun, Gruendl, Marberger, and Scherber (2001) used morphing software to vary female characteristics and found that facial shapes of girls of about 14-years-old, with smooth, pure skin, produced the highest attraction ratings. They found that even the most attractive mature female faces could be made more attractive by morphing into them greater and greater degrees of immaturity. […] The foregoing considerations suggest a range of female ages, which most typically are capable of producing adaptive attraction responses in mature males with respect to reproduction. This range extends from puberty, when reproductive value is maximal, into the 20s, when fertility is greatest, and beyond while fertility lasts. Within this range, male preferences may typically peak, for example, at female ages of 17 or 18, a compromise of highest reproductive value (ages 12 or 13) and fertility (ages 22 or 23) (cf. Williams, 1975). Depending on local social and cultural conditions, this peak may be shifted (i.e., recalibrated) to younger or older female ages (Buss, 1989)."[7]

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NEPIOPHILIA:

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Corresponds to Tanner stage 1. The rarest of the chronophilias.

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HEBEPHILIA:

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This term was coined by Bernard Glueck in 1955[14] but didn't become widespread in literature until it was popularized by Ray Blanchard the 1980's.[15]

The age range of this chronophilia typically corresponds to Tanner stages 2 and 3.

More about hebephiles – a lot of these people are only hard-coded to form pair bonds with younger teens right around middle school age. Many adults may get bored of listening to a 7th grader talk for more than a few minutes but thoroughly enjoy lengthy discussions with other adults – however this is the design of people primarily attracted to 18+ YOS. Hebephiles, on the other hand, could listen to a 12/13 year old talk for hours on end without getting bored. They are endlessly fascinating to them, but older females bore them. Their hearts just don't resonate with older females. They just don’t click with them; it doesn’t feel right. It’s only ever when they are interacting with middle school aged teens that they feel a sense of belonging. – this is the design of teen attracted adults.[12]

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EPHEBOPHILIA:

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Ongoing pattern of sexual attraction toward post-pubescents youths from 15-17 (late teens) and sometimes up to 19. Some experts say this corresponds to tanner stage 4; but this is highly disputed as the age of puberty appears to be decreasing.[13]

Sex between adults and individuals in this age range is legal in nearly all countries. It's legal for 16 year old's to have sex with anyone 16 and up in 32 US states regardless of the age gap.

Also considered "normophilia".[20]

Some experts have considered reclassifying ephebophilia as teleiophilia, combining them, or even declassifying it as a chronophilia due to the fact that many elements of ephebophilia do not match up with the definition of a paraphilia(atypical sexual interests). Ex: post-pubescents are as reproductively viable as middle-aged adults.

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@tony-wm7lx says:

21 June 2024 at 07:16

PEDOPHILIA:

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An ongoing attraction to prepubescents from ages 3-10 and in some cases up to 13 depending on the Tanner stage of the Tanner scale of human development being used. (Many 14 or 15-year-old's would not be pubescent/reached puberty, i.e., in Tanner stages 2 or 3 of development; many would instead be in Tanner Stage 4, and a few might appear to be in Tanner Stage 5.)

It may surprise one to know that most adults who engage in sexual contact with prepubescents or pubescents aren't even pedophiles/hebephiles or primarily attracted to them.[9][10][11]

Also, most pedophiles never actually engage in sexual contact with prepubescents; the rate of how many do varies but many journals put an estimate at 5-20%.[21]

Additionally, few NON-pedophiles and non-hebephiles engage in contact.[21]

Furthermore, most contact is with permission, not forceful in nature.

Finally, most contact (either with "permission" or forceful) with prepubescents/pubescents is from people with antisocial traits/opportunistic individuals on power trips (ex: sociopaths – people with low empathy who commit crimes). These opportunists are primarily attracted to adults but engage in sexual acts with youths because it is easier.

The in-built personality of the contactor has more impact on whether they are more likely to contact than their age. All of these contactors were likely to make contact as children and teens as well.[6]

_________________________________________________________

There are other chronophilias like pedophilia to denote attractions to other age ranges.

Chronophilia – a sexual attraction to people of a certain age range. The term was coined by John Money.[1][2][3]

______________

Chart of chronophilias (also called age-based paraphilias):

Chronophilia| preferred age range | prevalence

___________________________________________

Nepiophilia | infants 2-3 | 1% or less

Pedophilia | prepubescents 3-10 (in some cases up to 13) | 3-5%

Hebephilia | pubescents from ages 11-14 | 16-20%

Ephebophilia and Teleiophilia | post-pubescents 15-17 (sometimes up to 19)
and young adults in their 20's and 30's | 75-86%

Mesophilia | middle-aged adults in their 40's and 50's | 48%

_____________________________________________

Prevalence rates are only for males and are based on a combination of studies and phallometric research.[1][4][5][6][7][8]

These refer to attractions to people of a certain age range, not the act of sex or romance with people in those ranges.

Technically, chronophilic labels do not relate to age itself but to preferences for human sexual maturity stages(body type, muscle development, etc.)[1]

There is no evidence that preferred ages among men change as they themselves age, but for older women this may be different.[18]

_________________________________________________________

Each of the chronophilias is based on a stage of the Tanner scale of human development which defines measures development based on sexual characteristics of human beings from childhood to adulthood. Physical features may not be the only measurement. Ex: some pedophilic males have reported "playfulness" as part of what they find attractive in prepubescents.[1]

The term minor-attraction has been used as an umbrella term to group the chronophilias in the lower age ranges. Any person person attracted to someone in the lower ranges is said to be a minor-attracted person (MAP).[19][23] The use of this term has been rapidly growing since 2017 and has drawn a lot of controversy among academics.[24]

These can also overlap; people can have more than one chronophilia:

pedohebephilia

hebeteleiophilia

pedohebemesophilia

etc.[1][12]

So just like some people are equally attracted to both males and females, some are equally attracted to post-pubescents and young adults, etc.

______________

Note: while a youth-based chronophile is more likely to seek romance and/or sex with someone in their preferred age range they aren't any more prone to 'seeking' for sex or romance in general than teleiophiles are. Having any of the lower range chronophilias does not imply one is a sex-crazed animal whose sole urge is to seek these things out in the same way that most higher range adult-based chronophiles aren't normally addicted to these things. Just like how most teleiophiles naturally meet, fall in love with someone then gravitate to sex later in the relationship, most hebephiles are the same way. Thus, other than having different attractions, their drives are really no different than those of teleiophiles.[1][12]

______________

More on prevalence:

Studies using phallometry have found that most men show at least some arousal to prepubescents, with a significant minority demonstrating a clear preference. We do know that when expanding the definition of pedophilia to encompass attraction towards ages as high as 12 or 13 (i.e. "pedohebephilia"), phallometry consistently suggests that around 20% of men are equally or more aroused by "children".[4] As James Kincaid says:

A recent study of ideal desirability using a computer program called FacePrints found that "the ideal 25-year-old woman … had a 14-year-old's abundant lips and an 11-year-old's delicate jaw." that small lower face providing also the prominent eyes and cheekbones of prepubescents. We are told to look like children if we can and for as long as we can, to pine for that look.

Further, the number of preferential hebephiles and ephebophiles is likely to be at least 10 times that the number of pedophiles.[1] According to Michael Seto and the DSM-5, the actual prevalence of Pedophilia is unknown, with an estimate of up to 3-5% (American Psychiatric Association, 2013).[4][8] Evidence concerning women is for all practical purposes, absent.

Cross-cultural, historic and species literature appears to suggest this, as put forth by Rind and Yuill. Further, present-day modeling studies display a hebephilic/ephebophilic Minor-Attracted optimum for male heterosexual attraction:

"For example, Johnston and Franklin (1993) had subjects "evolve" a beautiful female face over iterated generations on a computer program designed to simulate natural selection. In the end, the most attractive versions of females' faces had proportions typical of girls aged 11-14. Braun, Gruendl, Marberger, and Scherber (2001) used morphing software to vary female characteristics and found that facial shapes of girls of about 14-years-old, with smooth, pure skin, produced the highest attraction ratings. They found that even the most attractive mature female faces could be made more attractive by morphing into them greater and greater degrees of immaturity. […] The foregoing considerations suggest a range of female ages, which most typically are capable of producing adaptive attraction responses in mature males with respect to reproduction. This range extends from puberty, when reproductive value is maximal, into the 20s, when fertility is greatest, and beyond while fertility lasts. Within this range, male preferences may typically peak, for example, at female ages of 17 or 18, a compromise of highest reproductive value (ages 12 or 13) and fertility (ages 22 or 23) (cf. Williams, 1975). Depending on local social and cultural conditions, this peak may be shifted (i.e., recalibrated) to younger or older female ages (Buss, 1989)."[7]

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NEPIOPHILIA:

______________

Corresponds to Tanner stage 1. The rarest of the chronophilias.

______________

HEBEPHILIA:

______________

This term was coined by Bernard Glueck in 1955[14] but didn't become widespread in literature until it was popularized by Ray Blanchard the 1980's.[15]

The age range of this chronophilia typically corresponds to Tanner stages 2 and 3.

More about hebephiles – a lot of these people are only hard-coded to form pair bonds with younger teens right around middle school age. Many adults may get bored of listening to a 7th grader talk for more than a few minutes but thoroughly enjoy lengthy discussions with other adults – however this is the design of people primarily attracted to 18+ YOS. Hebephiles, on the other hand, could listen to a 12/13 year old talk for hours on end without getting bored. They are endlessly fascinating to them, but older females bore them. Their hearts just don't resonate with older females. They just don’t click with them; it doesn’t feel right. It’s only ever when they are interacting with middle school aged teens that they feel a sense of belonging. – this is the design of teen attracted adults.[12]

______________

EPHEBOPHILIA:

______________

Ongoing pattern of sexual attraction toward post-pubescents youths from 15-17 (late teens) and sometimes up to 19. Some experts say this corresponds to tanner stage 4; but this is highly disputed as the age of puberty appears to be decreasing.[13]

Sex between adults and individuals in this age range is legal in nearly all countries. It's legal for 16 year old's to have sex with anyone 16 and up in 32 US states regardless of the age gap.

Also considered "normophilia".[20]

Some experts have considered reclassifying ephebophilia as teleiophilia, combining them, or even declassifying it as a chronophilia due to the fact that many elements of ephebophilia do not match up with the definition of a paraphilia(atypical sexual interests). Ex: post-pubescents are as reproductively viable as middle-aged adults.

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@KDSima says:

21 June 2024 at 07:16

It is a condition, acting on it is illegal. If they act on it the punishment must be harsh. Just the way it is.
Someone compared it to psychopathy and serial killing. Killing is against the law, and must be punished. But, some psychopaths also are rewarded and respected as CEO’s, and business leaders.
If a person can have a sex robot that meets their pedophilic. Reds, should that b legal? I don’t think I am okay w/that, but I attribute human feelings to non humans. Just wondering.

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@rezzyspheres1138 says:

21 June 2024 at 07:16

your a pedophile too joe

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@HilalFCB says:

21 June 2024 at 07:16

This is honestly disgusting.
This is exactly how homosexuality started.
At first people used to be disgusted at the very mention of it now its normalized.
Wouldnt be surprised if the same happened to pedophilia.

And changing the term pedophilia to "minor attracted people" or some shit like that because these guys are really good at naming messed up shit.

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@lgreen2475 says:

21 June 2024 at 07:16

The stats in my area for my age group, I asked a professional who deals with this and he said the number was close to 70 percent and that is just the reported cases I knew it was common but that is just shocking. Now that I'm older and recognise the damage in people, that number makes sense.irs . It's happened so many of us here and more and more are just beginning to talk about. I'm nearly 50 years old. It's just so insidious and prolific. The reason they have been getting away with all this time is because of the shame and guild the child carries the rest of their life's. Too many people have opted not to live with it. They would rather not live at al.l it has done untold damage in the world.

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