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  2. If a monster like Anthony Rumble Johnson can cut from 220lbs to 170lbs and fucking destroy people half his size, if a monster like Brock Lesnar can destroy Randy Couture who is 70 lbs lighter and like 40 years older than him, if a guy like Vitor Belfort can juice up on TRT and go from dadbod to Bane overnight and knock out Michael Bisping's fucking eyeball with one kick, how is all that ok and its not ok for trans athletes like Fallon Fox to compete in the women's divison?

    6:33 this is all you need to hear to understand that Joe Rogan is just transphobic. You can't hide your insecurities behind your paper-thin ill informed science. But ok you say that trans athletes have an unfair advantage?
    I'll let UFC 1 prove you wrong – who won UFC 1? Skinny-fat tiny little Royce Gracie, who defeated men twice his size over and over to win. The sport of MMA has proven one thing and one thing only time after time – the more skilled fighter is more likely to win. And what are we really talking about here? Is Fallon Fox a UFC champion? Is she undefeated? NO. She started MMA at age 35 and she went 5-1 in 2 years in a low tier MMA promotion with 2 KO and 2 sub W's and 1 KO loss. Does she sound like an elite level fighter? She is 5'6 and 144lbs. Does this sound advantageous?? She's not 6' 170lb!
    If Fallon Fox fought Ronda Rousey or Amanda Nunes, who would win? My money would not be on Fox. Coz all things being roughly even (and they are), at the end of the day she's not as skilled a fighter as Rousey or Nunes.

    Moreover, what you don't know is what hormones therapy does to you as a man transitioning to a woman. If anything, trans athletes are at a disadvantage. In order to transition, you have to go thru a year of counseling so that youre medically cleared to transition. Then you go intensive hormone therapy: testosterone blockers coupled with very high amounts of estrogen. Trans women have way more estrogen in their bodies than cis women. This causes mood changes, changes in vision, changes in their sense of touch, body fat levels, facial features, bone structure, and probably even bone density and a host of other changes – if anything, trans athletes who are literally transitioning into a new body are at a physiological disadvantage because of this – imagine having to train and push your body to peak athletic performance for 13 weeks and then having to fight anyone while your body is going thru these changes!

    Yeah chop off Brock Lesnars dick and call him a woman haw haw – what a stupid argument. No he wouldn't be a woman – he'd be a castrated man. But put Brock on HRT for 3 years and I'd like to see how right Joe's theory is.

    And to even insinuate that the only reason transwomen athletes are trans is to compete against cis women and have an "easier time" winning is absolutely ludicrous. Do you honestly believe that a cis man would put himself through the complete gender transition process just to win a trophy???? It's the straightest, most privileged, most selfish way you could possibly think. If you have no idea what it feels like to look in the mirror and see a reflection that doesn't feel right, then you have no right to have myopic phobic black&white opinions on the subject. If you're given a public speaking platform like a podcast, the last thing you should use it for is to be divisive and spread hate.

    The issue of trans athletes is a human rights issue and this kind of podcasted hate speech is denying trans women their fundamental human rights to be treated as women by society.

    There is no debate here. Joe is just an insecure old dinosaur imposing his toxic masculinity while going thru his mid life crisis and is afraid of the world changing around him. Do not support this "man". He is just spreading hate.
    #TRANSPHOBIA #TRANSDISCRIMINATION
    #TRANSRIGHTSNOW
    #STOPTHEHATE
    #REALMENDONTHATE
    #ITS2021

  4. okay fine well pretend gender is just a social construct here – medically speaking males and females are different and it affects their athletic abilities greatly. male division, female division, intersex/open division (iether a division for those who specifically are or have transitioned or a division where there are no rules fuck it we dont care fight whoever you want (watch it get dominated by male men though because they arent taking female hormones or weren't born the physically less combative sex) or both) but i bet if that were to happen there would suddenly be a drop in trans participation in these sports because they "arent being included" AKA they only want to do it so they can win.

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