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Title: This Is What Happens When You Doubt Your Security In God?

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  1. Magical Beings,, ha, right. Prayer is a waste of time. The Hubble telescope just identified the most distant star at 28 billion light years away. If there was a god, do you think it would care about this insignificant little planet? Religion is a form of insanity for undereducated cretins.

  2. "When we say…Jesus Christ…was produced without sexual union, and was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, **we propound nothing new or different** from what you believe regarding those whom you call Sons of God. [In fact]…if anybody objects that [Jesus] was crucified, this is in **common** with the sons of Zeus (as you call them) who suffered, as previously listed [he listed Dionysus, Hercules, and Asclepius]. Since their fatal sufferings are all narrated as not similar but different, so his unique passion should not seem to be any worse."

    Note how Justin (Martyr) is less of a fool than modern Christian apologists. He admits that differences don’t matter. Since each and every one of the suffering and dying gods are slain by different means, one cannot argue the mytheme requires exactly the same means of death. “But Osiris can’t have inspired the Jesus myth because Osiris wasn’t nailed to a cross” is a stupid argument. The mytheme is simply death. Being killed. Suffering and dying. The exact mode of death can vary freely. It makes no difference to the existence and influence of the mytheme. It’s simply the particular instantiation of a generic abstraction. And Justin’s argument (that Satan invented these fake religions to confuse people) entails Justin agreed the mytheme existed: indeed, it was demonically promulgated, multiple times. Intentionally.

    Likewise, Justin notices the mytheme is not virgin birth, but sexless conception. Of which many examples had already been popularized in pagan mythology (there just happens to also have been examples of actual virgin born gods as well). And by his argument (that the Devil was deliberately emulating the Jesus mytheme, in advance), Justin clearly accepted the same principle for “rising again” after death: the particular exact metaphysics of the resurrection could, like the exact method of death or conception, vary freely. The mytheme consists solely of the abstraction: returning to life. Somehow. Some way. We will say bodily, at the very least. But what sort of body (the same one, a new one, a mortal one, an immortal one), didn’t matter. If it had, Justin would have made the argument that “those gods” weren’t really resurrected. But that argument, never occurs to him. Nor did it to any other apologist of the first three centuries.

    Ancient Christians well knew there was nothing new about their dying-and-rising god. Not in respect to the mytheme. Their claims were solely that his particular instantiation of it was better, and the only one that actually happened. They didn’t make up the stupid modern arguments that dying-and-rising god myths didn’t exist or weren’t part of a common mytheme everyone knew about. For example, in the same century, Tertullian, in Prescription against Heretics 40, makes exactly the same argument as Justin. Funny that. They had better access to the evidence than we do. They knew what was really and widely the case. We should listen to them.

    Google "Dying-and-Rising Gods: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"

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    Google "Ehrman Errs: Yes, Bart, There Were Dying & Rising Gods – atheologica"

    Watch "Dying & Rising Gods: A Response to William Lane Craig" by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica.

    Google "The First Easters: Death and Resurrection Before Christ | atheologica"

    Google "The Christs Before Christ: Tammuz-Adonis | atheologica"

    Watch "Asclepius: The Pre-Christian Healer & Savior" by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica

    Google "Virgin Birth: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"

    Google "5 Pagan Parallels to Jesus That Actually Aren’t Bullshit – Atheomedy"

    Google "Christian Apologetics: The Art of Deceit – Atheomedy"

    Google "Isaiah 53 & the Suffering Servant | atheologica"

    Google "Defending the Resurrection: It’s Easy if You Lie! – Atheomedy"

    Google "Rising Gods, Pagan Parallels, and Cultural Context: A Response to M. David Litwa | atheologica"

    Google "An Evidence Attested Resurrection? – chromosome two"

    Google "The Empty Tomb: A Rhetorical Dead End – atheologica"

    Google "Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses – Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"

    A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar.

    Google "Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them — by Dr. Steven DiMattei"

    Google "How do we know that the biblical writers were **not** writing history? — by Dr Steven DiMattei"

    Also:

    Google "How Did The Gospel Writers Know? – The Doston Jones Blog"

    Google "Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 – The Doston Jones Blog"

    Google "Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? – The Doston Jones Blog"

    Google "Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John – The Church Of Truth"

  3. Lord we thank You for Your wonderful Blood and receive every word You have spoken. Please allow us to hear Your voice clearly and guide us with Your Holy Spirit as we walk in Your name believing and having faith in only You through Your Grace, rest and perfect peace amen amen and amen! ❤️🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾❤️🙏🏾❤️

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