Our First Estate: Determining Election FYTube



Those of you new to the concept of Preexistence, inquire of me how it is or was that election determines the circumstances and situations of our birth, family, nationality, and other specifics related to who we are. In this show, I expound upon some of those details.

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  1. Not to bash on other peoples' beliefs, only to bring forward a doctrine I was exposed to my entire life, I will make this comment.
    In more than a few occasions I listened to Zen talking about spiritual topics that to the main stream Christian will sound very strange, totally off scripture (Bible), not preached from any pulpic, nowhere in the world.
    But to me, and any person who is familiar with the doctrine of the Mormon church, Zen's readings of extra canonical texts sound very familiar. The pre existense of man, the war in heaven, the expulsion of lucifer and a third of the host of heaven to the earth. Variations of what was read today would be: we were not created as angels but as literal sons and daughtes of a Heavenly Father and a Heavenly Mother. Christ been the first born, and lucifer closest to him as brothers. That we are here to be tested in all things, given the tools to recognize truths from falsehoods through the Holy spirit, and to all mormons, Joseph Smith restored the old church in its original form, pastors, preachers, apostles and prophets to administer the affairs of God through the priesthood given by God to Joseph Smith. So this church claims to have the only true authority to act in the name of God. To baptize, to confer the preisthood of god to worthy males, 12 years old and older. To bless and sanctify the supper of the lord and serve it to the congregation. To unite a couple in holy matrimony for time and all eternity in their temples. To perform baptism for the dead, to also offer those departed the opportunity to accept (the mormon) gospel. To participate in the true order of prayer, give thanks and ask for world peace, etc.
    Obviously these knowledge was gicen to Joseoh Smith by men, men who new about deeper sacred things and changed them to make it apper holy and unique. The authorities of this church will never accept that the earth is flat, that we are, in someway, fallen algels as well, that Christ is not in our same level in creation.
    I asked Zen before. I understand he is not a pastor, a church leader, only a researcher of spiritual things. But it is also true, that Zen has immense influense in a lot of people. So, I want to know: what about authority to act in the administration of holy things here on earth. Where do I go to get baptize? Is it not a commandment? I need to get baptize for the remission of my sins.
    It's always great to listen to you Zen, it brings home truths that I have been exposed already but only half way.

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