Is Paul a False Apostle? With Rob Skiba and Zen Garcia FYTube



This clip shares Rob Skiba and Zen Garcia’s point of view on the concerns being raised up in the Truth Seeking community of the validity of Paul’s epistles and apostleship.

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  1. A lot of Paul's comments about women are problematic because they have caused many women to reject the Church and even God. And it's too sad that Paul's comments are actually causing people to go to Hell like this. I think my grandmother fitted into this category, unfortunately, and, unfortunately, as a single parent, she was the spiritual head of the family, which meant we had no spirituality, even extending into my generation and onward to the next after me with younger cousins. Most of my family was and still are atheistic. And, in general, if churches alienate women, then whole families are affected, and for generations.
    I believe that Paul was an apostle, but that the value of his life story is that he was a Kenite before Christ changed him. Paul fits the profile of a Kenite, that is, a descendant of Satan's seduction of Eve in the Garden. Jesus describes Cain as a "murderer from the beginning." And Paul, when he first enters the story in the Bible, is indeed a murderer and a persecutor of Christians. Paul fits other characteristics of the Kenite. He was from a wealthy family with status, he had a fabulous education, and he was a great intellect. The Devil's children are quite talented and intelligent. These people have been called by many different names besides Kenites: Tares, Illuminati, Reptilians, Elites. Today they are the sociopaths who rule the world. They are eligible for salvation, if they choose to follow Jesus and accept him as savior, but most don't choose it, and continue to live in their arrogant ways. So I give credit to Paul for leaving this life and coming to Christ, and I think he worked hard and did a lot to spread the faith. But, for the most part, Paul's influence in alienating women has been quite pervasive and perverse.

    Compare Paul's influence regarding women with Jesus'. No one has ever done more for women than Jesus Christ. In the incident with the woman at the well, Jesus talks to a woman directly. She says, that "I perceive," stating she recognizes who he is. She runs back to her village to tell others about him (and he doesn't stop her, telling her that women can't teach). She brings several villagers back to meet him and they, too, believe. But they say they believe because they talked to him not because they believed her comments about him, showing the general prejudice in society. In the incident with Mary and Martha, Jesus tells Mary that she can study directly under him, rather than doing housework. Jesus says that women can communicate directly with him, not through some man. (I've been told by one religious man that I need to "attach" myself to a man in order to be able to communicate with God. And, at another church, the pastor gave for his Christmas sermon one on how women should submit to men and not feel "put upon" about it. And that was his Christmas sermon! I never went back to that church.) And the most important news in the history of humankind? It's Jesus' resurrection, of course, and Jesus revealed this to a woman first. (But Paul inaccurately says that Jesus revealed it to "Cephus," that is, Peter, first.) And when a bunch of men wanted to stone a woman for fornication/adultery, Jesus wrote with a stick on the ground what some of these men were doing themselves in secret, and the men then quickly dispersed and went away. "What about what you were doing , (fill in the man's name) last Saturday night?" And at the Wedding at Cana, Jesus listens to his mother's concern that the party is running out of wine and performs his first miracle. And even in the Old Testament, there were some women leaders such as Deborah, a woman teacher such as Hulda.

    All of the incidents from the New Testament I cited are from the Book of John. I think that both Jesus and John loved and respected women. I recently had a dream experience, right before I woke up, and somebody was talking to me. I did not see who it was in the dream, which was an entirely auditory experience. Whoever it was, told me to read the "Books" of John (I'm assuming this includes Revelation), and whoever was talking said to read them because the "books" of John can be used as a "lens" to understand the rest of the New Testament. So this is good advice, especially regarding the alienation that Paul has caused with women in the church. So, in contrast, most Christian churches concentrate on Paul, practically to the exclusion of not only John and the rest of the New Testament, but to the Old Testament as well. With most Churches, they pay some brief lip service to Jesus, and they might pay some cursory attention to John, but it's all about Paul, Paul, Paul, and the rest of the Bible is practically ignored.

    This focus on Paul seems to be due to the pernicious trend of dispensationalism (which leads to the further error of the pre-trib rapture, but that's another subject). And Jesus knew this would happen, because at one point he is joking, or being facetious, and saying to somebody about the belief that he only came for Jews' salvation, stating that others were like dogs asking for crumbs. Jesus didn't only come here to save Jews. He came for everybody. Many churches have almost elevated Paul to the position of co-savior along with Jesus, with Jesus for the Jews and Paul for the gentiles. And this idea of Paul as a co-savior is ridiculous because Jesus is our only savior.

    I think that churches have to take the emphasis off Paul. The way to do this? Without discrediting Paul's value and his good works, it should be made clear that many of Paul's statements about women were a reflection of the society at the time. A lot of his statements are also a reflection of his position as a pharisee, that is, his Jewish roots. For example, Paul says that Peter saw Jesus first after the resurrection, when it was actually Mary. Paul was probably saying this because according to Jewish law, a woman's testimony was not reliable, so therefore Mary's seeing Jesus first didn't count in Jewish law. The Bible itself sometimes lapses into this custom also. For example, when Jesus fed the "5,000," it was probably a number closer to 20,000 that he actually fed. That's because the count, as most counts in Biblical times, did not include women or children. So only the number of men that Jesus fed that day were counted. Another Pauline example, that of women's not speaking in churches, women worshipping separately, etc. A lot of these restrictions on women in Judaism were because of the issue of blood, that is, women's menstruation. A lot of the restrictions on women in the Bible concern blood and bleeding, such as purifications with Mikva baths. And then there was the incident in the Bible where the woman was segregated from her family and society for years because of a bleeding/menstrual issue, probably uterine cancer. And even Jesus and Mary had to wait for a period of purification after Jesus' birth before they could enter the Temple area. This is because there's blood all over the place during a birth.
    When blood is introduced into religious invocation, it can quickly turn into an incident where demons are attracted and enter the scene. Why is that? It's because the "life of the flesh is in the blood." And what are demons attracted to? They're attracted to flesh because they don't want to go to the pit. They want to enter our bodies instead, so the use of blood, or even the presence of blood such as a menstruating women, when used in or around religious invocation can attract demons. Blood attracts demonic forces if combined with any type of prayer, ritual or religious invocation. Remember the man who was possessed who lived in the tombs whom Jesus healed? This man continually cut himself which is what was continuing his possession.
    But what happened since the old Jewish law? Jesus happened, that's what. And his blood now covers women who accept him, so women can participate in religious rituals without attracting demonic influences. Paul also advises women to cover their heads, he was trying to protect women from the sexual attentions of fallen angels. But it's not necessary to cover our heads, either. We're protected by the blood of Christ, and no lace doiley on your head can compete with that.
    Paul has a lot of value in the Bible for all the work he did. But his main value is his life story and conversion as a Kenite into accepting Christ as Savior, in my opinion. And he needs to be removed from the elevated position that most churches have placed him in as co-savior. He is nothing of the kind.

  2. Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees (check) and Herod (check) and the ravenous wolf (tribe of Benjamin, check!) Oh yeah and didn't Yahshua say that the fruit of a false prophet was thorns and didn't Paul have a thorn??(check)
    Do you heed Yahshua's warnings or not?? Defending a liar with lies is meaningless. Paultards.

  3. 1 Corinthians 8:4-5, 7-8, 10-11 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
    For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
    Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
    But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
    For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
    And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
    (Ok as long as it doesn't offend a "weaker" brother)
    1 Corinthians 10:19, 27-28 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
    If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake.
    But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof
    (Plausible deniability)

    Revelation 2:2, 9, 14, 20 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
    I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
    But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
    Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

    Clearly Jesus doesn't think of an idol as nothing! Clearly Jesus is talking about foods sacrificed to idols as spiritual fornication/adultery!!!!

    Paul has deceived the whole world with his wishy-washy doctrines. How much easier is it going to be for the Anti-christ of Revelation to deceive those already conditioned by Paul.

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