Continuing our study of Genesis, on this show, we covered Genesis 18 with related commentary from Jasher 18-19:45, the Targums, Legends of the Jews and the Writings of Abraham.
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Mutton is not only the flesh of sheep, but of goats.
Shalom brothers, just a thought for nxt yr as we are all called to shine the Light, hope you both and many others see the TRUTH to this share, thank you both for your share.
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“Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.”
Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society (1953) pages 49&50
Mutton is sheep
Hey, Rob! Bear with me, this is a little long lol. There's something I've been thinking about for a couple years that kind of just suddenly came together for me between listening to you and Zen, as well as Adam at POTV. I've always thought that Messiah is separate from the Father and eternal and, recently, in an exchange about a passage in the targums (Gen 22:13), Adam at POTV pointed out Enoch 48:1-6 to me, which suggests that Messiah is not eternal, but "Before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of Heaven were made, his name was named before Yahuah Tseva'oth."… That he was before the foundation of the world, but he had a definitive point in time that he was named by Yahuah. And then, on the other hand, I've seen you make a great case for the Word of Yahuah, or the Son, being the same as Yahuah.
As confusing as this may seem, I now believe that both of these lines of reasoning are true. Let me explain further.. I have an analogy that might help bring some clarity.
So, if the Father is to be the Most High, he cannot enter his creation as he is because he would then become sub- or beneath himself, which is not possible and paradoxical. So, before the creation of the foundation of the world, he creates a manifestion of himself… an extension of himself (His Right Hand, if you prefer) who is subject to his will and, in fact, has the same set apart Spirit. He has physical independence, but follows the will of the Father because he shares the same Spirit with the Father.
So think of it this way: imagine you create a game… A game for your PC or whatever. You exist beyond, above and outside of this creation of yours and in order to play or enter this creation, you must create a character or an avatar (in a sense) for yourself. This character does nothing outside of your will. It is an extension of your spirit and subject to your will because it is your spirit (your mind, your consciousness) that drives both you and this character. This character or avatar is 100% you, but you are greater than he because you are outside this game (you exist in a realm outside of your creation) and he is subject to your command. He is the means by which your spirit, or essence, can physically interact with your creation in the world you've created, while not becoming subordinate to that creation by entering it (if it were possible).
So, likewise, the only begotten Son of the Father is the means by which the Spirit of the Supreme El of all things can physically interact with His creation without becoming subject to its bounds… Because it is impossible for the Most High to be bound by his own creation. He couldn't be the Most High if he became subordinate in any way to his creation.
The Son and the Father, together, are Elohiym and thus unified in mind (their minds are not identical, they are unified because they share the same set apart Spirit). The Father, in certain capacities, must interact with His creation through the Son in order to maintain supremacy over creation. Because of this, for instance, the Son is allowed to be the creator of the world because the Son is the Hand that executes the will of the Father. The Son is also the only way our Most High Elohiym can become subject to the world and sacrifice Himself for the sins of all humanity while still being supreme above all creation. Ask yourself, why didn't the Father sacrifice himself as a propitiation for the sin of the world? Because, from a purely logical perspective, the Father cannot submit Himself to the hands of his creation and simultaneously be supreme over it.
This is also why the Father must be greater than the Son (John 14:28), but the Son is still Elohiym. They are unified in Spirit as Elohiym. This is why "Whosoever denies the Son, the same has not the Father: but he that acknowledges the Son has the Father also." (1 John 2:23)… because if you deny the Son, you are denying the set apart Spirit they share. Denying the Son is blaspheming the set apart Spirit.
So, I think people tend to get caught in way of thinking that makes them believe that if they believe that YHWH is the Word, then they are somehow reducing the divinity of the Son and, likewise, if they believe that the Son is separate from the Father they are in denial of all the instances we see in the Torah that are essentially equating the Word of Yahuah and YHWH.
I think this analogy also helps us understand why no man has seen the Father (John 6:46). It is my belief that no man will ever behold the Father on His own level of existence. I do believe, however, that the saints will one day be able to approach the Father and will be able to have communication with Him directly and behold his brilliance or his Shekinah.
I believe that if you separate yourself from the emotional apprehension from possibly being wrong and worrying that you're denying the divinity of Messiah (or somehow denying his existence by making himself the same as YHWH?), the reality is that both lines of reasoning are true. The Father and the Word of the Father are the same in the sense that they (Elohiym) share the same Spirit. Simultaneously, they are also not the same and, from a more physical and logistical standpoint, the Father is greater than the Son.
I do hope that this analogy helps in understanding, but please also realize that it's only my mere attempt at understanding the nature of our Elohiym and is certainly subject to flaw.