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  1. I learned a lot from this conversation but the jump from the problem with the lab mice (=them having longer telomeres) to the invalidity of drug safety tests appears to be illogical, because as far as I know scientists always use a control group before they draw a conclusion. If BOTH the test group (the mice that received the drug) and the control group (those that didn't) had long telomeres, any safety test result that COMPARES the two would still be valid. That's because both the test group and the control group would be resilient to the toxins to the same degree. After all, the conclusion would be drawn from the COMPARISON of the two groups on how soon they died. And it would be apple-to-apple.

    By the way I am not a scientist, just a (skeptical) consumer of pharmaceutical products. So can someone please educate me on this as this is an important matter to me and my family. So I would REALLY appreciate any feedback or correction on my understanding 🙂

  2. Joe still advocates for DMT after hearing this? Is it worth the long term damaging effects on the body just for the sake of a wild ten minutes balls-tripping experience? I know he didn't encourage it but how many people has gotten curious and took psychedelics because he talked about it ever so frequently?

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