Was Jesus Created?
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Was Jesus Created?
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How can Jesus pray and call on God if He Jesus is God. Please explain in a easy to understand answer. This is very important.
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In the beginning, the word was with God. But God is without time, so that doesn't really say Jesus is without time, but was there in the beginning. He could have been part of the divine council mentioned in Psalms. Jesus still could have created everything.
Jesus was God here with us. God is spirit, in a man's body, Jesus. Jesus only did the Father's will. He spoke on a deeper level about this. He didn't claim to be the Father, but claimed to be God. Very different even if we say they are the same. For Jesus has the spirit, and the power of God as God was within Jesus, just as Jesus is within us.
Psalms 90, as you quote, have the Jews saying God created everything, not Jesus.
My point….no one can really say for sure with authority. This teaching almost sounds like an argument for the oneness theory that Jesus is the Father. Which, it isn't as stated in the beginning of the teaching.
But what do I know…….
You and Walter Veitch are my fav ministers for different reasons. I pray I get to meet you in heaven.
The sins of babylon are about forcing unbiblical beliefs on people, so they will not be armed against Satan with a strong understanding of God's word.
Paul said there is one God, the Father.
The Pope said there is one God, the Trinity.
The Heruli and Ostrogoths said, "so the Trinity gave his only begotten son? How does that make sense?."
The Papacy said they taught Jesus was a created being.
Babylon means confusion. So they murdered all who would not accept their confusion.
Andrews said the Trinity is the wine of babylon because it destroys the personality of God. He said that in 1855, the same year he taught Ellen White that the Sabbath starts at sunset. In 1905 Ellen White says our doctrines have been established in the last 50 years. That 50 years begins in 1855. Ellen White never used words like "Trinity" or "triune God" or "God the son" or "Co-eternal" or any of these words relating to trinitarianism. But she does reject trinitarian teachings when she uses the term "personality of God".
The triune God is a pagan God, an invention of the Catholic Church, which originates from the pagan teaching that "all gods are one God".
The Catholic Church has stated that the Trinity is centrial doctrine of the Catholic Church, on which all her other doctrines are built. That's the doctrine they use to uproot two of the three horns.
The Trinity is referred to as "He" in the 28 fundamental beliefs. Ted Wilson said the Trinity is the Lord God Almighty. But, who is the Lord God Almighty according to Elen White? The Father. Just like in the bible.
She said the personality of God is a pillar of our faith, and she said the personality of God is everything to us as a people. It's what separates us from the Catholics.
Ellen White said the angels were created but Jesus was begotten.
But, Doug Bachelor rejecting the personality of God and the sonship of Jesus is like William Miller rejecting the Sabbath and like Peter going with the circumcision group. Even legendary evangelists make mistakes, and God is glorified in forgiving them as He forgives all of us for our errors.
Adventist leaders have made the wine of Babylon a test of fellowship and have planted the flag of the Pope in our church. They are the ones who have troubled Israel, as Elijah said. But all this is in fulfillment of prophecy, so they have an out if they are willing to repent.
Godhead, divinity, Not cathplic trinity.