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  1. You believe Jesus is Michael because your founders were Arians. That is why you have so much in common with Jehova Witnesses. Your founders had the same beliefs as Charles Taze Russell who agreed with Millerites.

    "Our pioneers clearly held Arian or semi-Arian views in regard to the person of Christ. They understood “firstborn over all creation” (Col 1:15) and “only begotten Son” (John 3:16) in a literal sense. The Father, therefore, was first and superior, and the Son, who had a beginning sometime in eternity, was subordinate to the Father. A corollary of this view was the belief that the Holy Spirit is an influence or the power of God, but not a person." (Gerhard Pfandl, Biblical Research Institute, The Doctrine of the Trinity Among Seventh-day Adventists; Journal of the Adventist Theological Society, 17/1 (Spring 2006): 160-179)

  2. In the first place the name jesus is bull .It came to existence only in the 1600 . First get that Wright. YAHVAHSHUA (jesus) was uplifted from an angel to YAHVAH SON Read Heb 1. Gen 1.3 And YAHVAH said let their be light and there was light that light was when YAHVAHSHUA was uplifted to be YAHVAHS Son . He then also told the other Angel's to worship him . Only in Gen 1.14 the sun and moon was created . My Gods name is YAHVAH and the Sons name is YAHVAHSHUA and the holy ghost name is RUAGH HAKODESH. Read Proverbs 30.4 the last part in the verse ask do you know his name .

  3. ive learnt a lot from your sermons Pastor Doug but i dont get why you would say this?:- why are you saying He was a creature and not Creator if all material and spiritual were made through Him, by Him and for Him? God spoke things appeared, in the beginning was the Word, Logos, and the Word was with God (beside Him) and the Word was God (not a god) speaking is Creating God manifested reality with His words and His 1st Word was Jesus/Logos/Micha-El before even the material universe was spoken into existence … im sorry but i only got as far as Jesus was a created being .. im gonna look to see what Stephen Borh or Walter Veith has to say on this matter, i already know what my KJV bible says so hopefully it will concur that Christ is Creator and God as much as the Holy Spirit that hovered over the waters of creation and separated them (BTW the reversal of these waters being separated happened in the flood)… actually ive just seen praise from Pastor Gregg from BibleFlockBox and i have gotten a lot of great biblical answers from his site too over the years so im gonna give it at least a play through i know this question has numerous paradigms and presumptions to get passed and id hate to be guilty of twisting scripture to suite my own preconceived ideas ( in my opinion God does not change and He does not make mistakes every smallest little nuance has meaning and past & future applications in types and anti types on so many levels it is nigh impossible for even the most complex story teller to fathom)

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