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  1. Peter Beschorner

    4 hours ago

    The orthodox churches that teach that the Holy spirit is a person only assumed this teaching from the 4th century AFTER Jesus & the apostles established Christianity.The councils that were conviened were at the orders of pagan Roman emperors who presided at these heated debates! Can we imagine God was blessing such worldly human ranglings? Why did Paul in all his letters address the believers with " May you have undeserved kindness & peace from God our father and the Lord Jesus Christ", no mention of a 'person' called the Holy Spirit"! ( Just check verse 2 of chap 1 in all Paul's letters.And when Stephen had a vision of heavan just before he was martyrd,why did he see only God & His son in heavan? Where was No3? 'God the holy spirit? Absent! Even in the book of revelation, we only see visions of 2 persons, never 3! Its just NOT biblical . Thats why not all Christians then and now have accepted this teaching. How can the Holy spirit be a person when " God poured out (of) some of His spirit at Pentecost" ( See Acts 2:18. At Heb 2:4 Paul speaks of "distributions of Holy spirit" How can a 'person' be distrbuted amoung people? How can 'some of a person be poured out on other persons'? No, God's Holy spirit is just what the bible says it is "God's" Spirit. It belongs to and is given in measures to his creatures. The Bible and the early Christians, ( ie; Justin Martyr) all belived it was not a person ( 3rd part of the trinity dogma ) but God's powerful, dynamic active force which He uses to accomplish His will. ( See Isa 40:13,26,29) It is always subject to God the Father's complete control and cannot act independantly.

  4. …so here's what you're trying to understand but can't because you're missing some understanding…
    Michael is the holy spirit himself…
    …and being One who is like God, does everything that God does…so as God does something spiritually…Michael does it physically…so as God created his son by division…then Michael went into Mary and created Jesus baby body…and modeled his body identical to the living father Enoch (both black men)(if you've seen me, you've seen the Father)…and the spirit of God was and IS WITH MICHAEL…and Michael and God STAYED INSIDE THE SONS BODY, and spoke through him…as he said–>his "father's" (two father's) who dwelled WITHIN HIM…this is why JW believes Michael and Jesus are the same person <—because THEY WERE.
    AND the son said he came in his father's name…so Jesus is actually Michael and God's OWN NAME… and he couldn't send him/them back until he himself was glorified in heaven…then they left his body, and the son sent him BACK…and now Michael–>JESUS has been BORN AGAIN..AND COMING–>IN THEIR OWN NAME… …
    ENOCH THE FATHER
    THE WORD IS THE SON
    MICHAEL THE HOLY ANGEL HOLY SPIRIT…AND PHYSICAL DELIVERER AND FINISHER

  5. God bless pastor Batchelor sir. More grace to you from God for the good work of the ministry you are doing.

    I humbly share my understanding on this teaching on the Holy Spirit with you sir. I believe the Holy Spirit is God Himself. Spirit is His nature and Holy is His character. I think the Father and the Holy Spirit are one and the same as a husband and a father in any family are one and the same… just titles. I believe that the Spirit of God (God's power, ability for doing things- Gen 1:1-3) which is given to the believer in Christ is God's way of living in and working through the believer in Christ (Eph 3:20-21). God almighty lives in us today and works in and through us today by the Spirits. That's my understanding

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